Chapter 8 Lord Of The Flies Quote Analysis

(Golding, 61) Ralph influenced many people to also have hope. Piggy and Simon (without Ralph) would have easily just gone with Jack and nothing would have happened. Jack wouldn’t (and didn’t) even have the intellect to connect fire with rescue without Ralph. Jack could care less about the fire, unless for cooking his meat of course. Ralph keep everyone on track as long as he could.

Jack and Roger were quick to turn into hunting, they were complete savages. Ralph wanted to fight it but lost. At the very end when they get rescued, you can see him being relieved about being saved by someone from civilization, but deep down he knows what him and the others are capable when no order is established. Ralph even contributed to Simons death, “Piggy and Ralph, under the threat of the sky, found themselves eager to take place in this demented but partly secure society… they chanted “killed the beast! Cut his throat!

Jack, a hunter, splits off from Ralph’s group to become another group that stands for savagery, hunting, and eventually outnumbers Ralph’s group. This leaves Ralph with no alleged allies.

Throughout the novel, Jack consistently demonstrates a disregard for rules and a desire for dominance and power. When he leads the boys in hunting and violence, he taps into their savage and primal instincts - including Ralph’s. As Jack proclaims, "The conch doesn't count at this end of the island" (Golding, 150) it becomes evident that he prioritizes dominance and power over order, authority, and the established rules on the island. In the midst of their destructive rivalry, Jack’s failures teach Ralph important lessons. Witnessing Jack’s inability to maintain the signal fire makes Ralph recognize the value of collaboration, communication, and planning for survival.

and Jack replies “Hunters.” This shows that he was civilized enough not to make a scene about Ralph being chosen but, he still made sure he was the commander of the hunters. The second defining moment was on page 31 when

When Ralph was trying to remind the boys of the rules Jack interrupted “Bollocks to the rules! We’re strong—we hunt! If there’s a beast, we’ll hunt it down! We’ll close in and beat and beat and beat—”(91)! This shows how Jack is in charge of the group's hunting activities, and he becomes obsessed with the hunt and the power it gives him.

Jack says that he is unwilling to be a part of Ralph’s group any longer. This goes to show that he has left the civilized part of him behind in favor of his savage side. If Jack had stayed with the civilized boys, then the two groups would still be as one and the conflict between the Jack and Ralph would not have reached the high peaking point of which it

Ralph likes the power given to him, but he fights to keep it. Jack instantly fights for power, and as a result, it turns him into a savage. In addition, Roger is not a chief, but he is Jack’s right-hand man.

This quote shows Ralph's recognition of the importance of rules and how he is maintaining a civilized society. As the leader of the group, Ralph thinks he is responsible for assuring that the boys behave in a certain way that is respectful, and easy for them to survive when they are having trouble. He understands that without the rules, the boys could fall out of respect and fall into chaos and savagery. This quote also shows Ralph's commitment

He says “Who cares” when Ralph says he’s breaking the rules and “Bollocks to the rules”. Jack only gets worse as we move into the future. Jack sets up his own group of savages who paint themselves and hunt pigs, in which he is chief of. At the ending Ralph is informed by SamnEric that Jack had Roger sharpen a stick on both ends for Ralphs head to be placed on.

The killings of Simon and Piggy can lead to mental issues, such as PTSD. A study by Matteo Fabris and Claudio Longobord states, “Homicide offenders have a higher frequency of PTSD than violent offenders who have not committed murder.”. Ralph, who was involved in both murders, would be greatly affected mentally and possibly develop PTSD. Another feeling Ralph felt was grief. On page 158 it says, “Ralph wept for the end of innocence, the darkness of man’s heart, and the fall through the air of a true, wise friend called Piggy.”

In the quote above, Ralph is attempting to hide when the boys pass by him. Jack however notices him and Ralph realizes this may be the end. Jack, along with his tribe and their spears and painted faces run down Ralph through the forest even setting it on fire. In the end Ralph ends up being saved by luck, running into an officer. If it were not for the officer, Jack’s evilness would have got the best of him, and Ralph would not have survived.

When Ralph encounters old friends while hiding from Jack, they warn him of their plan, “’I dunno. And Ralph, Jack, the chief, says it’ll be dangerous-’ ‘- and we’ve got to be careful and throw our spears like at a pig.’” (Golding 188). The spear that was created to hunt pigs for food to survive, to protect their group for safety, is now used to hunt down their friends without remorse because of the fear that Jack instilled in them. Ralph wasn’t an exception to this contagious fear for it also changes him, “While he was eating, he heard fresh noises- cries of pain from Samneric, cries of panic, angry voices.

In chapters 6 and 7, there are more signs of Jack and everyone else disobeying Ralph, implying the further strain of Jack and Ralph’s relationship.    In Chapter 8, Ralph angered Jack simply by calling him and his hunters cowardly and ineffective. In response, he unsuccessfully tries to impeach Ralph then permanently runs away into the forest, with many others joining him. A small provocation from Ralph causing Jack to form his own separate group shows how volatile the tension in their relationship now is. It can also be seen that Jack now fully rejects Ralph’s leadership in favour of his own.

No Piggy to talk sense, no Simon, and Samneric wasn’t by his side. Eric says, “Ralph, Jack, the chief, says it’ll be dangerous and we’ve got to be careful and throw our spears like at a pig. We’re going forward from this end until we find you.” (Golding, 170). Ralph has worked tirelessly to retain the structure of civilization and maximize the chances of being rescued.